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Both Sides Brigade's avatar

Really good post! I find these sorts of criticisms very frustrating too and I'm glad there are more realists on here pushing back on them.

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Jonas's avatar

Great post, I hadn't heard the comparison to "relations of things" before. I previously thought the best comparison for moral reasons were to normative rational truths (like if p implies q - then given p you should believe q). Feels like normative rational truths are in between the truthiness of "relations of things" and "moral reasons" in terms of how easy they are to swallow.

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